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the reality is, romney's heart is in the right place. he's saying he's against too big to fail as any sensible person ought to be. the reality is, as long as those banks are that big they're too big to fail. and the only way that you're ever going to withdraw the moral hazard, government safety net from those banks is to break them up. so if you think mitt romney is going to do that then you and i have a disagreement. his heart's in the right place but he's never going to do that. >> jeff, thank you very much. we appreciate it. don staying for the rest of the show. >>> the center for disease control is trying to contain a killer disease from spreading in the u.s. details up next. >>> here's here's a number to remember. the public debt of the u.s. went up by more than 93 million where. that's up more than all the debt of the federal government between independence day 1776 and october 1942. think of it. we'll be right back. you. we know you. we know you have to rise early... and work late, with not enough sleep in between. how you sometim
the reality is, romney's heart is in the right place. he's saying he's against too big to fail as any sensible person ought to be. the reality is, as long as those banks are that big they're too big to fail. and the only way that you're ever going to withdraw the moral hazard, government safety net from those banks is to break them up. so if you think mitt romney is going to do that then you and i have a disagreement. his heart's in the right place but he's never going to do that. >>...
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do you think governor romney comes out swinging right off the bat? what do you think he is going to be pressured and asked about in terms of specifics on his economic plan? >> overall i don't expect a whole lot of specifics from either one. in the last several weeks the whole of the discussion has been on debate techniques and who's going to make the biggest gaffe. hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. but i don't know if they'll get around to what i consider the biggest financial issues, the debt crisis that we have. and what are they going to do about it. and how do they relate to the federal reserve. say we can't have much to do with it. let the fed monetize the debt and go on and on? i have not heard from either one of them actually cutting something. so i'm afraid the important issue of the financial crisis that we're in the middle of is going to get worse. my prediction is they won't really deal with it tonight. if they do talk about it, i think the answers will be muffled and they'll sort of talk about it the same way about what to do abo
do you think governor romney comes out swinging right off the bat? what do you think he is going to be pressured and asked about in terms of specifics on his economic plan? >> overall i don't expect a whole lot of specifics from either one. in the last several weeks the whole of the discussion has been on debate techniques and who's going to make the biggest gaffe. hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. but i don't know if they'll get around to what i consider the biggest financial...
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. >> right now it's down to about 66% in trade obviously suggesting romney got a big boost. >> mini flash crash. >> among our political guests this morning ready to talk about the road to election today, arianna huffington will be our guest host. huffington "post" obviously has a left bent, but it was declaring romney won the debate. ken duberstein will join us, as well. >> i was reading some of your tweets last night, john, and i liked your tweet. i tell you what i took away from the entire debate because i want to let you say it, but i saw what's possible in a life spent without any alcohol. i saw what i could have possibly been -- i saw how i could have possibly been able to talk if i had all the brain cells that i started with. and that was what i came away with. that i just wish in a maybe i had considered that path maybe of being, you negotiation life of sobriety. anyway, what did you think, john? >> well, romney considered that path and he took that path, joe, and he tried to press his case last night. the challenge for him was to come out with the kind of aggression that could sco
. >> right now it's down to about 66% in trade obviously suggesting romney got a big boost. >> mini flash crash. >> among our political guests this morning ready to talk about the road to election today, arianna huffington will be our guest host. huffington "post" obviously has a left bent, but it was declaring romney won the debate. ken duberstein will join us, as well. >> i was reading some of your tweets last night, john, and i liked your tweet. i tell you...
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romney went right into a call from north american energy self-sufficiently, coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s. use. that's not the case for the users of coal. the users, people. and that's why i said romney's giving you a heads up to buy american electric and power, two coal building utilities that have to spend far less retrofitting facilities under romney staff epa. i would be a seller of the console energies in the pea bodies in the strength. i take down union pacific. it is the carrier of clean coal. i would never recommend a company on this show with bad fund am fundamentals. but they can be justified even with this sitting president. the pure coal plays are faltering fundamentally. there is no way i'm going to buy them based on some off handed debate patter. you want a
romney went right into a call from north american energy self-sufficiently, coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s. use. that's not the case for the users of coal. the...
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the more information about any of these candidates, mitt romney, barack obama, just put it right out there, free speech. that's free markets. i'm kudlow. we'll see you monday. up. a short word that's a tall order. up your game. up the ante. and if you stumble, you get back up. up isn't easy, and we ought to know. we're in the business of up. everyday delta flies a quarter of million people while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. we're raising the bar on...
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i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there the other way, through economic growth and job creation? isn't that the ultimate goal? >> yeah, but maria, look, it's tough to create economic growth. you whack the home mortgage interest deduction and the housing sector takes a hit. whack the employer health insurance deduction, and the health sector takes a hit. >> but you're lowering taxes for corporations and individuals. doesn't it mean those people most likely and those companies most likely will be putting money back into the economy to create jobs and to create consumer spending? i was looking at the ultimate goal here. so, you know, is that where he's going with this, to eventually create growth? >> yes. the marginal tax rates are the driver of economic growth no matter -- no doubt about it. look,
i give romney credit for moving in the right direction here, but he should be bolder, like paul ryan's house plan. >> the other issue is -- the ultimate goal here is to create economic growth, right? >> right. >> dave, if you were to see these tax cuts actually lead to economic growth, lead businesses to create jobs, do you get there the other way, through economic growth and job creation? isn't that the ultimate goal? >> yeah, but maria, look, it's tough to create...
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>> you know what, this is the right approach to go, larry. i think that mitt romney has opened up an avenue to pick up in the polls here. this plan is evolving into a flat tax. this one piece has legs to it. it has been out an hour. we can't really say. but what about the enormous cu s s in tax rates. that is kind of tough. when you cut tax rates to 22% and you pay for it by raising taxes by $2 million then we have a problem. that is a fair point. but let's look at somebody you who makes an income of $80,000. that perp gperson gets a big deduction off of his income. solar so, larry, it is something to fix this tax system. >> can i weigh in on this? >> here is the problem i have. i think this is going to get down to $140,000, $120,000 that was the number that paul ryan floated today. things that trouble me. i don't want middle class taxes to go up at all. so i'm worried about not just the mortgage deduction, the kiddy credit, health care deductions and earned income tax credits and i'm a little concerned, i would have to see the details, i wan
>> you know what, this is the right approach to go, larry. i think that mitt romney has opened up an avenue to pick up in the polls here. this plan is evolving into a flat tax. this one piece has legs to it. it has been out an hour. we can't really say. but what about the enormous cu s s in tax rates. that is kind of tough. when you cut tax rates to 22% and you pay for it by raising taxes by $2 million then we have a problem. that is a fair point. but let's look at somebody you who makes...
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this evening, in my view, romney needs to put obama on defense right at the beginning, take him to the cleaners, right out of the gate, no wasted time, do what john mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i think he needs to lay
this evening, in my view, romney needs to put obama on defense right at the beginning, take him to the cleaners, right out of the gate, no wasted time, do what john mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you,...
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which is the best play right now. but first mr. romney likes coal, should you? we'll get some answer as we zero in on the rising coal stocks when halftime returns. [ male announcer ] what if you had thermal night-vision goggles, like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and appli
which is the best play right now. but first mr. romney likes coal, should you? we'll get some answer as we zero in on the rising coal stocks when halftime returns. [ male announcer ] what if you had thermal night-vision goggles, like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading...
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our guests think mitt romney is the right man for the market and the economy. stanford university professor will tell you why right after this. ♪ [ piano ] you. we know you. we know you're not always on top of it. and how could you be? that often you just want... quiet. we know all that life demands from you. and how it's almost impossible for you to escape. almost. introducing a car made better for you in every way. the luxurious, all-new honda accord. it starts with you. >>> welcome back. we are live at the nasdaq market site in new york city. "wall street journal" reporting the apple makers are making components for a small ipad. some are worried that it could be a mistake for some saying it could squeeze margins. should we be concerned? >> no. should not be. i respect henry's work but you should not be because this is why wal-mart took out those kindle devices and so forth out of their stores. they took it out because people buy things through these ipads and so forth. that is a retail sales tool and that is why apple wants to get these things into people
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one of the telling moments when you look at the screen shot of the two, you had mitt romney looking right at the president, but then the president either looking away or looking down. he looked like someone who was simply not ready, who did not want to be there. he didn't want to be at that debate. at some point you also felt like he thought it was beneath him to be there. but mitt romney enjoyed every minute of it and he really trounced barack obama every point of that debate for an hour and a half. >> obviously everyone in this debate has their own side, so i guess you would say that. but boris, doing well in a debate is one thing. i imagine to persuade an entire country to vote for you when you've already said publicly that you only really care about less than half of them is quite another, isn't it. he has a lot of ground to make up. >> that's not what mitt romney said. he didn't say he only cares about 53% versus the 47% which i assume that's what you're rivering to. what he said is that 47% of the country would not respond to his message about lowering or cutting taxes because they
one of the telling moments when you look at the screen shot of the two, you had mitt romney looking right at the president, but then the president either looking away or looking down. he looked like someone who was simply not ready, who did not want to be there. he didn't want to be at that debate. at some point you also felt like he thought it was beneath him to be there. but mitt romney enjoyed every minute of it and he really trounced barack obama every point of that debate for an hour and a...
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i think of romney doing well in debate. right. talk about regime change in iran potentially because of the protests. >> that's the big one. >> that's the big one. elections in venezuela this weekend which may be -- >> that could be next week's -- >> next week's big one. three situation wrgs you could see a lot more supply coming on the market no, >> on the crude side we're amply supplied and we're there right now and probably gets bigger next year. there's a lot more coming out of iraq. so, we've had a big insecurity premium in the price of oil for most of this contemporary. $15 to $20. that gets eroded over the next three to four months. >> crude at 89 bucks in november. >> we test into the 80s, low 80s and 70s before it's over. >> how long will that take? >> within the next three to six months. >> wow. >> the problem is, and i don't disagree necessarily, again i don't think it means gasoline prices will go lower as we just discussed. the trade has been, pete's talked about it, we mentioned it a few times, refiners work, vol vola
i think of romney doing well in debate. right. talk about regime change in iran potentially because of the protests. >> that's the big one. >> that's the big one. elections in venezuela this weekend which may be -- >> that could be next week's -- >> next week's big one. three situation wrgs you could see a lot more supply coming on the market no, >> on the crude side we're amply supplied and we're there right now and probably gets bigger next year. there's a lot...
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romney rose to the occasion in the debates. he was challenged from the right continually in the primaries during the nomination process, and every time he had to win a critical debate, he did. he won the nom noination in the last debate in arizona. if that debate had gone against him, he may well not be the nominee today. he's an experienced debater. he is a very capable person. he's a smart person. he's going to be extremely well prepared. preparation is his mantra. i expect mitt romney to do well tonight. >> gretchen, ultimately who do you think will be controlling this debate and setting the other candidate on the run? >> well, i think president obama does have an advantage here that he's been talking about the same policies and using the same talking points for the past four years. so he has that advantage. his convention speech was a lot like a state of the union speech that we've heard over and over and over again. so romney i think will have to rise to the challenge tonight. he'll be on the stage with the president. he k
romney rose to the occasion in the debates. he was challenged from the right continually in the primaries during the nomination process, and every time he had to win a critical debate, he did. he won the nom noination in the last debate in arizona. if that debate had gone against him, he may well not be the nominee today. he's an experienced debater. he is a very capable person. he's a smart person. he's going to be extremely well prepared. preparation is his mantra. i expect mitt romney to do...
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that right there creates about 7 million jobs. >> sit enough, though? does mitt romney get it? our kudlow congress is going to come back in session and see if nick can make the break through. >>> welcome back to the kudlow report, i'm larry kudlow, in this half hour, hold your breath. if bush tax cuts are not extended, watch those popular home short sales being stopped short. that's very important, could cause a wave in foreclosures and another wave in the journey turn in housing. and if that doesn't scare you, it's the first monday in october. and the key issues this year, affirmative action, same sex action, will the john roberts supreme court continue to reshape the country in a liberal or conservative direction? that's what we need to know. 36 days remaining until the election, sometime for some tough love on tax policies. paul ryan appeared on fox news sunday to talk taxes. i thought ryan did rather well, take a listen. >> our pro growth tax reform, it cuts taxes by 20%, higher take home for the mid class, that right there creates about 7 million jobs. it's not what deduct
that right there creates about 7 million jobs. >> sit enough, though? does mitt romney get it? our kudlow congress is going to come back in session and see if nick can make the break through. >>> welcome back to the kudlow report, i'm larry kudlow, in this half hour, hold your breath. if bush tax cuts are not extended, watch those popular home short sales being stopped short. that's very important, could cause a wave in foreclosures and another wave in the journey turn in...
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. >> that's the right sound bite. after that sound bite, obama then attacked jet owners saying if you have a private jet you should be taxed more. even romney, he's pretty wealthy himself, he refused to come to the support of the wealthy. skip that sound bite i guess. of course, no one should feel sorry for the rich. let's save our tears for poor big bird. but the debate showed both sides are really trying to distance themselves from the 1% even though 1% pay a lot of taxes in this country and of course they are funding a lot of this race and a lot of money for these two candidates. >> twaes geit was genius. romney's move more to the sernd was the best thing he could have done. i wrote months ago why he should support the buffett rule. i know it is painful. i understand a lot of our viewers will be hit by it but it takes it off the board politically. genius political move by romney last night. >> we'll see whether or not it actually works and pays off. >> i agree. >> it only matter if the undecideds watched the debate
. >> that's the right sound bite. after that sound bite, obama then attacked jet owners saying if you have a private jet you should be taxed more. even romney, he's pretty wealthy himself, he refused to come to the support of the wealthy. skip that sound bite i guess. of course, no one should feel sorry for the rich. let's save our tears for poor big bird. but the debate showed both sides are really trying to distance themselves from the 1% even though 1% pay a lot of taxes in this...
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a tax reform only happens if romney wins. mlp's are at greater risk if you have an all republican washington. the one thing that the republicans on the right care about is lower rates and a broader base. >> thank you for your time. up next a food stock that has been serving up products. what new projects the company has cooking. >>> we have gotten a story you can sink your teeth into. i didn't write that. well, you know, it is already out there. the company has reports 7 straight upside earning surprises. joining us is the ceo. i understand that you are about to report your earnings shortly. so you are in a quiet period. what can you tell us. >> business is good. consumption numbers are up double digit. eating healthy and i've said it on the show before is not a fad or a trend. we have prop coming up. 98% of hain's products are free. we introduced a how much or bpo food. you squirt it off into the bowl for kids. there is so much out there today. i just saw numbers where more an more consumers are eating at home. business is s
a tax reform only happens if romney wins. mlp's are at greater risk if you have an all republican washington. the one thing that the republicans on the right care about is lower rates and a broader base. >> thank you for your time. up next a food stock that has been serving up products. what new projects the company has cooking. >>> we have gotten a story you can sink your teeth into. i didn't write that. well, you know, it is already out there. the company has reports 7 straight...
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and it's trading lower right now at the open by 4%. let's check in with bob pisani here on the floor with more of what is moving this morning. bob. >> reporter: so are we getting a romney bounce for stocks this morning? look, i think everybody agrees, governor romney did very well, better than some people thought. you noticed europe. this is what i watch every morning, get up, 3:00, look at how europe's going to open. and normally europe opens strong. we open strong. but this morning europe has been meandering. not a lot of trends earlier on. but our market was up overnight. nicely. and some people are attributing this to a potential romney -- potential romney strong showing. a lot of people feel that the stock market might be better under governor romney. elsewhere, i want to talk about health care stocks because here's the flip side of this. remember, there has been a sort of health care on trade. let's just call it that. ever since the democratic convention, the end of august, under certain assumptions that perhaps president obama w
and it's trading lower right now at the open by 4%. let's check in with bob pisani here on the floor with more of what is moving this morning. bob. >> reporter: so are we getting a romney bounce for stocks this morning? look, i think everybody agrees, governor romney did very well, better than some people thought. you noticed europe. this is what i watch every morning, get up, 3:00, look at how europe's going to open. and normally europe opens strong. we open strong. but this morning...
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. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual numbers are. i remember taking statistics, so i understand standard -- i understand how they try to make it scientific. but you know what i'm saying. you take any 900 people at any given tile and you think about 200 million people, whatever it is, but then we microanalyze the moist minute details because that's what we do as journalists. i can give you polls -- i saw a poll last week that had -- it was plus-four for the president, and then another one was down six. it was an individual state. and then you got the deviations between rasmussen consistently and some of the other, whether it's quinnipiac or the oth
. >> right. but senior citizens are the strongest element of romney's coalition. doing very well with them right now. >> john, i know that every day as we get closer to the election, we need things to talk about, and the polls are all we have. how many people was this, 849 or something? what's the number? >> you talking about the national poll? >> yeah, either one. >> in the swing state polls, we do 1,300 registered voters. >> doesn't matter what the actual...
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so i think romney's performance last night made people say, hey, maybe i don't have to sell right now. maybe i can keep going. that gives a boost to the market. >> let's bring in kenny right now. also, another reason maybe not to sell is the fact that this market has been kind of teflon coated. it keeps grinding its way higher. if you don't have to sell because of potential tax changes, go with the flow. >> i understand that argument. and as great as the debate was last night -- i thought it was actually a tremendous debate for the country to see. i thought they were both very good but i think romney came out swinging very hard, he caught everybody by surprise. no one had seen that side of him. i still think it is a very close race. i'm not sure i, for one, am going to buy i don't have to sell because i think romney's going to win. >> they don't have to sell though right away. they have until the end of the year. we still have the potential after the election to get a sell-off if everybody says those capital gains are huge. >> i think you're exactly right. this morning we tested 1,426
so i think romney's performance last night made people say, hey, maybe i don't have to sell right now. maybe i can keep going. that gives a boost to the market. >> let's bring in kenny right now. also, another reason maybe not to sell is the fact that this market has been kind of teflon coated. it keeps grinding its way higher. if you don't have to sell because of potential tax changes, go with the flow. >> i understand that argument. and as great as the debate was last night -- i...
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you can catch it all right here live on cnbc beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be hosting the pre and post coverage along with carl quintanilla. of course, john harwood will also be with us. he's live on the ground in denver. he's here with a preview. over to you, john. >> hey, maria. it's important to remember this election isn't over. if you look at the new polls that we came out with last night and this morning, mitt romney's only trailing by three points nationally. that's down from a five-point margin a couple weeks ago. he's 9/11 florieven in florida,. he still trails in ohio by five points. that's a big problem. he needs to win the state of ohio. that just shows he has an opportunity tonight. three other big economic issues they're going to be talking about, first of all, on taxes. mitt romney hasosed a 20% across the board rate cut for individuals, but he hasn't specified how he's going to pay for that without increasing the deficit or increasing the burden on middle and low-income workers. president obama will press him on that. by the same token,
you can catch it all right here live on cnbc beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be hosting the pre and post coverage along with carl quintanilla. of course, john harwood will also be with us. he's live on the ground in denver. he's here with a preview. over to you, john. >> hey, maria. it's important to remember this election isn't over. if you look at the new polls that we came out with last night and this morning, mitt romney's only trailing by three points nationally. that's down...
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boone pickens firmly believes that mitt romney is the man with the right energy plan. let's chat with boone. boone pickens, founder of bp capital among many other things that he's done. i want to push back on you a bit here, boone. mitt romney saying i'm going to do this, open up more lands. yet when i read reports from companies that drill for gas they can't get the equipment to the people there. anyway, do we have as a nation the infrastructure to actually go after more of our own resources? >> we do have. but i think that the industry's kind of solared up here in the last two, three months. we've got plenty of resources. infrastructure in the northeast especially in the marcellus needs to advance a little bit. all that will happen. and now you still have very cheap natural gas prices. it is about 30% of what it is around the world. so very cheap. we have the cheapest energy in america. oil today is $90 a barrel. brent north sea the global price is normal in this country. i know you have the california problem on the gasoline. if i could just comment on that. that's
boone pickens firmly believes that mitt romney is the man with the right energy plan. let's chat with boone. boone pickens, founder of bp capital among many other things that he's done. i want to push back on you a bit here, boone. mitt romney saying i'm going to do this, open up more lands. yet when i read reports from companies that drill for gas they can't get the equipment to the people there. anyway, do we have as a nation the infrastructure to actually go after more of our own resources?...
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no, mitt romney was very good. he was crisp. his temperament was right. he had the whole, you know, when he'd hit him on health care he'd say obama care, mr. president, i hope you don't take that personally. he softened it. the whole debate from the get-go, even on the little line about the anniversary, you know. >> that was cute. >> where mitt romney with ann, it fell off the cough. his weakest moment was when he tried a zinger, had the planned line. everything else was unplanned. >> so many times, but not the facts. chuck, when is our next poll, and when will we see -- >> i would tell everybody the first polls to look at would be tuesday/wednesday. >> national polls? >> we're going back into the states, we're going back in florida, ohio and virginia, after that debate we had another plan, i said let's go back in the three most important battleground states and see what's shifted and on any polling, what you want to do is let this settle in, and the first survey, no pollster likes a survey on friday and saturday, it's uneven because there are a lot of pe
no, mitt romney was very good. he was crisp. his temperament was right. he had the whole, you know, when he'd hit him on health care he'd say obama care, mr. president, i hope you don't take that personally. he softened it. the whole debate from the get-go, even on the little line about the anniversary, you know. >> that was cute. >> where mitt romney with ann, it fell off the cough. his weakest moment was when he tried a zinger, had the planned line. everything else was unplanned....
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new poll shows 49% of likely voters favoring the president versus 47% for romney. amongst all registered voter, obama holds a 5 point lead. but 52% of likely voters across key swing states favor the president. you'll be able to get full coverage of wedding who's presidential debate right here on cnbc, it starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. a july says the rules set to go into effect october 12th won't properly justified by the cftc, the rules would cap the size of positions trading firms can take in certain commodity contracts and expand restrictions to swaps trade. meanwhile nokia has another big customer. the "wall street journal" says the company is going to unveil a deal with oracle take. the company's oracle world conference in san francisco. nokia's recently signed deals as well with groupon and amazon which dropped google maps. shares up marginally this morning julia got to a chance to sit down with sheryl sandberg. so tune in for that interview. shares in banco popular have resumed trading. the banks approved a 2.5 billion rights issue. it will report record write
new poll shows 49% of likely voters favoring the president versus 47% for romney. amongst all registered voter, obama holds a 5 point lead. but 52% of likely voters across key swing states favor the president. you'll be able to get full coverage of wedding who's presidential debate right here on cnbc, it starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern. a july says the rules set to go into effect october 12th won't properly justified by the cftc, the rules would cap the size of positions trading firms can take in...
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on the right-hand side we see potential romney cabinet selections, glenn hubbard, he's been an economic adviser to both romney's presidential campaigns, last time and again this time, and john taylor at stanford university is also somebody who is mentioned frequently. look at state department as well that's obviously one that is a moving part right now because this interesting tension in washington on the obama side if he's reelected between john kerry who might have done himself some good with his speech at the democratic national convention, and susan rice is somebody who is often mentioned. now, this recent flap over libya and what the united states said or did not say about the situation there might have damaged her prospects a little bit. we'll have to watch that one, on the romney side robert zoellick, former world bank president and richard haass, president of the council of foreign relations mention there had and treasury secretary we talked about some of the names for the obama cabinet starting with the obama side, jack lew, former white house chief of staff, he's most easily c
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so ohio may be a better shot for mitt romney. as i mentioned, i was talking to a romney strategist the other day and said, well, you're getting closer in florida, but you're still far behind in ohio. and his answer was we need both of them. >> yeah, in some ways maybe tonight's aimed at an economically challenged woman in ohio as someone wrote earlier in the week. john, we'll see you tonight of course. do not miss coverage of the president shpresidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bere. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bedet presidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to be presidential debate. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to bepr. >>> let's get to rick santelli. >> actually it's proven to be a perfect segue. because in the end, whether you believe polls or not, it's exactly what i'm going to talk about regarding data. polls are basically surveys. do people actually guarantee they'll vote the way they're p
so ohio may be a better shot for mitt romney. as i mentioned, i was talking to a romney strategist the other day and said, well, you're getting closer in florida, but you're still far behind in ohio. and his answer was we need both of them. >> yeah, in some ways maybe tonight's aimed at an economically challenged woman in ohio as someone wrote earlier in the week. john, we'll see you tonight of course. do not miss coverage of the president shpresidential debate. >>> let's get to...
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a lot of people calling it the romney rally, bill. >> yes, they are. coming off the highs, though, right now. is the market on a march to a new all-time high? we're going to ask the ceo of t.d. asset management brian murdoch. he'll be with us in a moment. >>> after the bell, would another disappointing jobs number tomorrow discredit all the action the fed has taken to fix the unemployment problem? the debate coming up on the "closing bell." stay with us. gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties! with cake! and presents! ah, that was good. too bad nobody could hear me. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. zagat just gave hertz its top rating in 15 categories, including best overal
a lot of people calling it the romney rally, bill. >> yes, they are. coming off the highs, though, right now. is the market on a march to a new all-time high? we're going to ask the ceo of t.d. asset management brian murdoch. he'll be with us in a moment. >>> after the bell, would another disappointing jobs number tomorrow discredit all the action the fed has taken to fix the unemployment problem? the debate coming up on the "closing bell." stay with us. gecko (clearing...
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to work. >> say romney wins, how quickly, in your estimation, do things turn around? what happens? what is the shift? to the extent, can you impact any of this? >> that's the caveat i was going to give you. >> i think whoever is elected president in a month from now, they will have to do major, major stuff. obviously you got two different ideologies, and i think if romney were elected, he's going to have to do major stuff, absorb major pain, but hopefully create a base from which the country can grow again. i don't think increasing meld i care is going to increase the growth rate of the country, and create more jobs, as an example. >> flip it around. if you take some of those things away, there is an argument to be made, and maybe you don't agree with it, there's going to be some pain at least in the short term. what does that do to the economy, in your views on where we ultimately go? >> i basically think that the last five years has been all about somebody sticking your finger in the dike. they didn't solve the problem. they stuck their finger in the dike and we kno
to work. >> say romney wins, how quickly, in your estimation, do things turn around? what happens? what is the shift? to the extent, can you impact any of this? >> that's the caveat i was going to give you. >> i think whoever is elected president in a month from now, they will have to do major, major stuff. obviously you got two different ideologies, and i think if romney were elected, he's going to have to do major stuff, absorb major pain, but hopefully create a base from...
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governor romney is right. they brought in frozen food cases and they're doing well. >> they raise price target to pier 1. >> i spent so much there last saturday. >> there's a great article about meningitis in "the new york times. a competitor, there are problems with contaminations. regeneron will go high or this. >> and calling a dead-cat bounce on. >> every cat has its day. >> what's coming up today? >> gold. we're going gold, gold, gold. we have a terrific executive and sandstone is the way to play gold as we go to 2,000 for gold and 1800 is the next stop. >> 1785 right now as i'm looking and this sunday, eagles and steelers. >> i don't know, man. people are starting to say that the eagles could be an upset. >> yea. >> i say dream on, and i like the eagles. >> have a great weekend, jim. see you next week. >> what does this morning's key job numbers tell us about the stock? an interview with jan hatzius from goldman. hi. i'm henry winkler. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great w
governor romney is right. they brought in frozen food cases and they're doing well. >> they raise price target to pier 1. >> i spent so much there last saturday. >> there's a great article about meningitis in "the new york times. a competitor, there are problems with contaminations. regeneron will go high or this. >> and calling a dead-cat bounce on. >> every cat has its day. >> what's coming up today? >> gold. we're going gold, gold, gold. we have...
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romney is up right. >> here barack obama is dropping his focus. he's beginning to drop away from mitt romney. and here he comes down to his paper. >> reporter: she says president obama dropped his posture often, especially late in the debate. that was a signal to many viewers that romney got the better of him. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> a sharp drop in the jobless rate. what does it mean for president obama and the economy? that's the power of human resources. the society... for human resource management and its members know... how to harness that power, because we help develop it. from the next economy, to the next generation, we help get... the most out of business, by getting the best out of people. shrm. leading people, leading organizations. >>> it's not an october surprise, but certainly some welcome news for the obama white house, waging what has been an uphill battle against unemployment. this week the labor department reported the jobless rate fell sharply in september to 7.8%. that's the same level it was when president obama took
romney is up right. >> here barack obama is dropping his focus. he's beginning to drop away from mitt romney. and here he comes down to his paper. >> reporter: she says president obama dropped his posture often, especially late in the debate. that was a signal to many viewers that romney got the better of him. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> a sharp drop in the jobless rate. what does it mean for president obama and the economy? that's the power of human resources. the...
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mitt romney says that is not the right assumption. if i cut taxes across the board and more money into piedmont acre pockets and spend more and have a lower tax rate and have more jobs and more own. >> stimulate the economy. >> and more money will come in. >> that is where the disagreement was. >> mitt romney does have some plans for cutting loopholes and some of these -- >> right. . he says we cut taxes and close loopholes and it becomes revenue neutral and president cited another studying saying you have to raise taxes on the middle class. that is why this becomes so hard to fact check one of these because they are both sort of saying things that are kind of true. >> let's switch to jobs. this doesn't have to do with the debate necessarily last night but it's critical. we have the big monthly jobs report tomorrow and we have some indicators -- >> two indicators. one is the adp a private sector report which historically has given you what is going on two days later and showed a big bump in private sector growth. the last couple of mo
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, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics? is he having a problem with that? >> easy to criticize both of them for not giving enough specifics. romney has a 59-point economic plan that most people have never looked at. i would say that is probably too specific. i think mitt romney should focus on saying things like, mr. president, we are, you seem to have a problem with profits, which my company made. but most americans have a problem with deficits, which you've rung up four consecutive trillion dollar deficits. they both have a little problem with details. but there is a big, i would strike a big contrast if i was mitt romne
, that wednesday's debate was certainly a big win for mitt romney, hands down. but observers are still criticizing him, actually, about not giving enough details. so, i want to read to you what a conservative columnist for "new york times" said right after the debate. romney had his share of lines and the stinctions he drew between romney care and obama care and didn't say anything about helping the uninsured. how do you respond to that? is it time for romney to give more specifics?...
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you could see mitt romney had prepared, was crisp, was right on. this felt more like a guy who hasn't debated for four years, to me. it looked like he wasn't honed, he wasn't in fighting weight on those points. >> inexcusable on his prep team? the romney team didn't make it a secret that they've been preparing. >> prepping all along. look, the thing is ultimately it's partly the fault of the prep team but the president's got -- it's difficult after four years, you know, you haven't debated. it's a different formaformat. he's got to do that. even on the clean energy stuff i think there what mitt romney was referring to was loan guarantees where obviously it doesn't cost $90 billion if the loan guarantee is on a $90 billion sized loan. it's only the loss rate times 90 billion. >> it wasn't just those particular companies. that's why he was wrong. >> so the president just didn't make that clear. and i think the bigger thing was the medicare charge. >> $716. we talked about that earlier. some of us were surprised. >> and it was usually piled on with th
you could see mitt romney had prepared, was crisp, was right on. this felt more like a guy who hasn't debated for four years, to me. it looked like he wasn't honed, he wasn't in fighting weight on those points. >> inexcusable on his prep team? the romney team didn't make it a secret that they've been preparing. >> prepping all along. look, the thing is ultimately it's partly the fault of the prep team but the president's got -- it's difficult after four years, you know, you haven't...
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we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape surfaced, government romney went on fox news where he was asked how he would have answered if the tape had come up in wednesday's debate. here's part of his answer. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. >> he said "completely wrong." that's completely weird namely because the night the tape aired, mr. romney rushed to a microphone to defend his 47% remarks. he kept defending them and hounded supporters for days after that. >> it'
we'll be right back. >>> look at mitt romney's stunning 180 on this. >> all right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, you name it. it's an entitlement. and the government should give it to them. and they will vote for this president no matter what. >> last night, two and a half weeks after that tape...
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they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance absolutely disgracefully bad. let me play a sound bite of what he said and let you respond to that. >> i have never seen a president of the united states blather, blather on like that, bore us, tell us none of his major arguments, fight back against any of the obvious distortions of the other candidate and just sit there. i mean, really. and you know how much i love this guy. >> stephanie, did you feel a little bit of that frustration? >> you know, i appreciate his opinion. i disagree with it. i think the president had a good performance last night. obviously, mitt romney had a good performance, but that's just what
they've been following what mitt romney has said. >> right. >> they're tuning in to the fact that he wasn't telling the truth last night. >> the conversation we had just a moment ago says on some of these things there are different ways of looking at t the point is, who is going to make the best point to the american people? some things can be proven definitively right or wrong. andrew sullivan, an influential supporter of the president and blogger called his performance...
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and hard pressed states right now can't all do that. we've seen layoffs of hundreds of thousands of teachers over the last few years, and governor romney doesn't think we need more teachers. i do. i think that is the kin of investment where the federal government can help. it can't do it all. but it can make a difference, and as a consequence, we'll have a better trained workforce and that will create jobs, because companies want to locate in places where we have a skilled workforce. >> two minutes, governor. >> massachusetts, our schools are ranked number one in all 50 states. the key to great schools is great teachers. every school district, every state, should make that decision on their own. the role of government, look behind us. the constitution and declaration of independence. the role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents. first, life and liberty. we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people. that means the military second to none. i don't believe in cutting our mi
and hard pressed states right now can't all do that. we've seen layoffs of hundreds of thousands of teachers over the last few years, and governor romney doesn't think we need more teachers. i do. i think that is the kin of investment where the federal government can help. it can't do it all. but it can make a difference, and as a consequence, we'll have a better trained workforce and that will create jobs, because companies want to locate in places where we have a skilled workforce. >>...
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the winner regardless. >> there's a big problem, lots of big problems for mitt romney right now, but this 47% thing. if you're barack obama, as he has been doing these attack ads the last few days, he will hammer mitt romney over the head throughout this debate about 47%. if he doesn't, he's mad. because it's an incredibly powerful hammer to use, because whichever way you try and spin that, it was a disaster. he called half of the country a bunch of scrounging victims. what does mitt romney do if barack obama does that? >> mitt romney has said a couple things since, piers. the first thing he said was that was me, not my campaign. he actually took responsibility which i appreciate when a grown man says i'm sorry, i made a mistake. number two, number two, his campaign is all about 100% of america and here's what he meant. he said it was inelegantly stated but i agree, not just the president will take him to task on that but i think the debate questioners will ask him. but romney should look at that as an opportunity not to be defensive again but to explain precisely what he meant. the
the winner regardless. >> there's a big problem, lots of big problems for mitt romney right now, but this 47% thing. if you're barack obama, as he has been doing these attack ads the last few days, he will hammer mitt romney over the head throughout this debate about 47%. if he doesn't, he's mad. because it's an incredibly powerful hammer to use, because whichever way you try and spin that, it was a disaster. he called half of the country a bunch of scrounging victims. what does mitt...
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you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments like that and throughout the debate, mitt romney seemed calm, in command of the facts, comfortable, made eye contact with the president. the president simply just looked uncomfortabl uncomfortable. >> and, roland, one of the boston papers had a headline that it was snore more years for obama. i mean, the reviews of his performance are harsh. >> absolutely. i think that it was lackluster, to some degree. i will disagree with will cain when he said mitt romney had a command of the facts. he had a command of what mitt thought actually were facts. you look at the fact check
you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments...
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it was a debate between a rusty president obama and a well rehearsed mitt romney. >> reporter: right out of the gate, it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's been there, done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, laid back manner, often appearing disengaged. it's not th
it was a debate between a rusty president obama and a well rehearsed mitt romney. >> reporter: right out of the gate, it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's been there, done that economics. >>...
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you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama
you know, that feels about right. it helped romney but we're just in the second inning of a long, long ball game. >> when it gets to the foreign policy debate which is the last one, lots to discuss there, obviously, syria, also libya with ambassador stevens. but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on...
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lew, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectively, if you look at the numbers, there are some real problems with the number of people who have dropped out of the labor force f. you're comparing it to reagan, morning in america, you compar
lew, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this...
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romney has said the president's policies right-hand turn working and the 8% was an indication of that. what's the response now? >> well, i think clearly the number of americans who are still looking for work, the people -- the work force participation rate is still far, far too high, so i don't think that 7.8% unemployment is something anybody, even the democrats, are cheering about. so i think that the president still clearly has a case to make for why another four years are going to be better under his leadership. >> the democrats would say, as they've said on our air this morning, that it is heading in the right direction at least. but normally a jobs number comes and goes, but yesterday certainly quite a bit of controversy over this latest number. some republicans, including former ge ceo jack welch saying that the number may not be kw t correct. welch tweeted this. unbelievable jobs numbers. the chicago guys will do nothing. can't debate so change numbers. does the romney camp share that position? >> well, i think the point is it's one month of unemployment numbers. we'll have to
romney has said the president's policies right-hand turn working and the 8% was an indication of that. what's the response now? >> well, i think clearly the number of americans who are still looking for work, the people -- the work force participation rate is still far, far too high, so i don't think that 7.8% unemployment is something anybody, even the democrats, are cheering about. so i think that the president still clearly has a case to make for why another four years are going to be...
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he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research or technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. we can't afford to double down on the same topdown economic policies that got us into this mess. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthened middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. and we're not going to do it. we have been there. we have tried th
he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round...
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let's get right to. all right. mitt romney coming out swinging. many viewers from the left and from the right say president obama took a shellacking. dana bash has the highlights. >> reporter: right out of the gate it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama sounded a familiar alarm. warning of romney's been there done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch that was made in 2001 and 2003. we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama car
let's get right to. all right. mitt romney coming out swinging. many viewers from the left and from the right say president obama took a shellacking. dana bash has the highlights. >> reporter: right out of the gate it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> president obama...
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that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it. >> would you argue that you were being provocative and had you put a question mark it would have been seen as more of a provocative statement rather than factual -- >> it would have
that's a lie, too, right? why don't you call mitt romney out on that? >> because mitt romney is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number should not determine the outcome of the presidential election. did...